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Erwin Kretschmer
04-21-2010, 10:04 PM
So I just discovered these photos, it's quite special! Can anyone identify these two tanks?
They seem like their are the same...?

Yeah, I know the ISU-122 on the right.. But the left?
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/mcevoyi/e10nv5.jpg

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2598/e25li8ad3.jpg

-E. Kretschmer
Colton Berg
04-21-2010, 10:35 PM
ive seen them...they are actually ambient tanks in DH..but i have no idea what hey are called..
Ernst Hoffmann
04-21-2010, 11:22 PM
looks like a weird Hetzer....
Wolfgang Model
04-22-2010, 01:06 AM
An E-25 ?
Alvin Fuchs
04-22-2010, 02:52 AM
One on the right is a captured Russian assault gun (SU 85?) me thinks. But the other one definitely looks like a screwed up Hetzer.
Wolfgang Model
04-22-2010, 11:04 AM
One on the right is a captured Russian assault gun (SU 85?) me thinks. But the other one definitely looks like a screwed up Hetzer.

Its a russian SU-122 Self Propelled Gun
Karl Ritter
04-22-2010, 03:41 PM
A ISU-122 and..definatelly NOT a Hetzer.
To many differences to be a Hetzer.

I'd say E-25.
Gerhard Schmidt
04-22-2010, 09:42 PM
Do you know any details on the photograph? Date, location, unit, etc...
Martin Huffmann
04-22-2010, 09:48 PM
Definately an E 25.The small MG turret is a dead give away.
Rudolph Farber
04-22-2010, 10:14 PM
Left is a hetzer, Right is captured Russian, below is basterdised chassis, French tank?
Wolfgang Model
04-22-2010, 11:14 PM
After comparing pictures, id say its a E-10 not a E-25. The tracks are a bit different. Second image that have to be a Hetzer.
Erwin Kretschmer
04-23-2010, 07:08 AM
Fuchs, I already stated it was an ISU-122 in the main topic ;)

And to all (and Model), none of them are a Hetzer.
Look at the wheels in the second photo, they are overlapping.. That's a typical German feature. The Hetzer was a modified Chzech tank commonly known as a Panzer 38(t).
Compare the wheels..
http://www.battletanks.com/images/Hetzer-2.jpg

None of the pictures I posted includes a Hetzer..

It sure looks like an E-25, but they were just paper-panzers, weren't they?

-E. Kretschmer
Wolfgang Model
04-23-2010, 12:40 PM
It cant be an E-25....

Have to be an E-10 at first pic.

Second pic is a E-25.
Karl Ritter
04-23-2010, 01:00 PM
I think Model is right.
Erwin Kretschmer
04-23-2010, 01:41 PM
Yeah, compared pictures a bit very close myself now. Indeed the first is an E-10 and the last is an E-25.. But these were never produced? Right??
I just can't figure this out!! :(
Wolfgang Model
04-23-2010, 03:32 PM
Well it could be very early prototype they managed to build. And since last days they used it....
Erwin Kretschmer
04-23-2010, 04:09 PM
I've read several stuff that they were never even started... Could we be on to something?
Wolfgang Model
04-23-2010, 04:11 PM
Yea :D

I dont think those are fake :P
Alvin Fuchs
04-23-2010, 09:03 PM
Fuchs, I already stated it was an ISU-122 in the main topic ;)

Yeah, sorry. :/
Erwin Kretschmer
04-23-2010, 10:41 PM
Yea :D

I dont think those are fake :P


So what do we do? Damn, who knew these were actually made? :eek: I can't.. Believe this? :eek:
Rudolph Farber
04-23-2010, 11:34 PM
There all Track laying vehicles! I WIN!
Erwin Kretschmer
04-26-2010, 09:12 AM
You're wrong too, Farber! YOU LOOSE! :D

I've known it all the time, and this was just more or less a test for you guys..
The vehicles depicted are, of course, an E-25 and an E-10 as Model states... BUT;

They are in a scale of 1/35, plastic model kits from Trumpeter painted up and photoshopped in..

HAH! NOW TAKE THAT!
No E-10 nor E-25 were never produced, nor started to produce. :cool:

-E. Kretschmer